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Phạm Văn Rạng

Phạm Văn Rạng (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)

06 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


Otddung (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) Tdung555+ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

1. Both editors have similar usernames and created few months apart from each other 2. There is an overlap of articles they edit specifically Revolutions of 1989 and North Korea. 3. Both accounts appear to be making multiple "test edits" to increase their edit count.

4. On North Korea I had asked Otddung to discuss for consensus on the article talk page, in an edit summary and on the user talk page. See User_talk:Otddung#North_Korea because of Special:MobileDiff/998433375.

Tdung555+ came along and undid that exact same edit, which another editor subsequently undid. See Special:MobileDiff/998505262 and my note on user talk page Special:MobileDiff/998600565 Vikram Vincent 04:55, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed.
Also found and
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 Confirmed:
Hoàng đế Càn Long (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)
Khang Hy Vương (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)
Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:20, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

07 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


This editor has a similar pattern to Otddung and is editing the same articles as North Korea and Revolutions of 1989. Vikram Vincent 12:44, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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I am not him, ok, why do you say that??? Nguyễn Phúc Vy (talk) 13:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed. Bagging and tagging sock. This SPI report can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

11 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

A relatiely new account that mainly started editing a few hours after the previous sock (Nguyễn Phúc Vy) was blocked (although the first edit was before the initial SPI block). The new account has an overlap with the previous socks at Revolutions of 1989 and Korea and also exhibits the same overlinking behavior (cf. Lokc555 and Nguyễn Phúc Vy). — MarkH21talk 01:47, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

There are some IPs making the same edits, e.g. at Manchuria (Lokc555, IP 1, IP 2), since this report was created. — MarkH21talk 14:25, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Càn Long Đế (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)

This account has an overlap at Revolutions of 1989 and appeared less than two weeks ago. Vikram Vincent 05:45, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

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Comment:I did see the pattern similarities but decided to wait and watch. Vikram Vincent 05:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed. Bagging and tagging socks. This SPI can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

15 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


1. Has a bot tag but no botty activity; 2. Seems to playing good hand-bad hand with two IP address (103.7.37.222 and 103.7.37.220 )at Revolutions of 1989 which matches our other socks in this farm. Vikram Vincent 15:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed. Bagging and tagging sock. This SPI case can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

20 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Basically the same username as the known sock Lokc555, and the same edits at Manchuria (Lokkkk555 vs. older sock, Lokc555, and some IPs). — MarkH21talk 02:02, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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     Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely), leaning
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     Likely. The geolocation is the same. However, different ranges and user agents compared to previous socks I've confirmed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:31, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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     Confirmed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:48, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
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     Clerk note: Username + fixation on "northeast China" do it for me. Bagged, tagged, lock requested. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


21 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Another 7 month old account just starting to edit after the last sock was blocked. Same articles and same nongrammatical edits to war infobox results as previous socks (Lokc555 vs Bán đảo Triều Tiên at Mongol invasions of Vietnam; Lokkkk555 vs Bán đảo Triều Tiên at Manchu language; Bán đảo Triều Tiên vs Lokkkk555 adding parentheticals about China). — MarkH21talk 18:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed. Bagging and tagging sock account. This SPI can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:49, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

23 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

A 1-year old account (so this would be the sockmaster) just made the exact same edit as previous socks: (Phạm Văn Rạng vs Lokkkk555 at Manchuria) and focusing on the same articles as the previous socks, particularly after they were semi-protected for sockpuppetry (1911 Revolution, Revolutions of 1989, North Korea; compare with the edits of recently blocked socks, e.g. Luong777+, Lolkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk555, Nguyenhai BOT, Lokc555). — MarkH21talk 00:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment Check user may not be required. This does appear to be a sock by its behavior. Vikram Vincent 05:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed. Bagging and tagging sock account. Moving SPI under discovered master. This SPI report can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:50, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

24 January 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Another account whose only edit has been to partially reinstate another sock's edit (Hàn Quốc vs Bán đảo Triều Tiên). Protecting the pages that these socks frequent can help reduce this whack-a-mole. — MarkH21talk 01:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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Error creating thumbnail: File missing

 Clerk note: Endorsing - the behavioural evidence seems strong, but there may be sleepers so worth checking. GirthSummit (blether) 19:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed.
Also found and
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 Confirmed:
Nguyễn Gia Miên (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)
Bagging and tagging account. This SPI can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:51, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

07 February 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


This account started making changes to Revolutions of 1989 similar to other socks in the farm. That apart it has been making unsourced edits to a number of pages which it either self reverts or others have to revert. And the name similarity is striking. Vikram Vincent 04:33, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

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~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Retagged all in the archive and retagged Otddung per the case move to an older account.
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     Global lock(s) requested for Ongtuandung555. Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 10:47, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

15 May 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


I blocked the account already. They thanked me for semi-protecting Revolutions of 1989, which they edited after making dummy edits and reverts to game being auto-confirmed. Fences&Windows 11:50, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

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  • No sleepers immediately visible on CU. Closing. Mz7 (talk) 02:32, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I suppose I should also mention this is very
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     Likely to previous socks based on CU data.
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     Global lock(s) requested. Mz7 (talk) 02:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retagged as proven. --Blablubbs|talk 10:24, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

15 June 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Disruptive editing similar to other sockpuppets, similar characters in username and similar edited pages Revolutions of 1989 and German reunification - || RuleTheWiki || (talk) 11:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed. Bagging and tagging sock account. This SPI can be closed... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

21 June 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Disruptive editing consistent with previous sockpuppets Revolutions of 1989, German reunification, German national football team etc. - || RuleTheWiki || (talk) 13:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

(EDIT) - User:Mtonna257 thanked me once and reverted, then thanked me again when i reverted again. The user also has suspicious editing on pages like Korea and topics relating to Goguryeo like User:German people. - || RuleTheWiki || (talk) 15:02, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hello || RuleTheWiki ||,
Yes, I reverted those edits but I want to apologise for some and Defend some.
In The Korea page, I added the Arirang Anthem as a sporting and reunification anthem, but the edit I made on Goguryeo was reverted, and I did not contest that.
Now about the anti-communist Revolutions of 1989, I was to ask why you removed the infobox of Civil Conflicts. It was very informative with Warsaw Pact Hardliners, Communists and their support vs. the Anti-communists, Nationalists , and Christian regimes and their support. AND NO, I only have one account. I am no sockpuppet, or whatever you call it.
I await your answer.
User:Mtonna257 Mtonna257 (talk) 17:12, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

Error creating thumbnail: File missing
 Possible:
Idealistic socialism (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)
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 Unrelated:
Mtonna257 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki)
Bagging and tagging confirmed accounts. Leaving the SPI open for a behavioral investigation on the rest. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The similarity in behaviour between Idealistic socialism and Free Bloc is sufficient to warrant a block.
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     Blocked and tagged. The unrelated CU pretty much confirms my initial intuition about Mtonna257. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you for your just ruling. Mtonna257 (talk) 05:41, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
    @Mtonna257 sorry about that, was unsure. - || RuleTheWiki || (talk) 12:27, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
    Forget about it. Problem Solved, Peace! Mtonna257 (talk) 12:36, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

16 July 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Confirmed by vi.wiki CUs. See 1 and 2. UnnamedUser 10:31, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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I removed one account that doesn't exist on en.wiki, and Hello mọi người has no edits here.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     On hold - Given the issues Bbb23 pointed out, this probably better handled on Meta. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:24, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Accounts locked. Tagging and closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:31, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

1 September 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Emperor of Wiki (talk · contribs) editing the usual football pages and also some Vietnam-related articles that the socks of Japanese555 (talk · contribs) often with the 555 suffixes often do Bumbubookworm (talk) 14:58, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

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  • Sure looks like them (or the other sock farm that doesn't like them)
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     Blocked and tagged,
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     Global lock(s) requested GeneralNotability (talk) 20:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

07 October 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Here we have three accounts with the same overlapping interests in German and Italian football and communism related articles. They have similar usernames to previous socks, and all have their home project on viwiki. Mimk05 is already blocked on itwiki. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:15, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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  • Group 1 is very
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     Likely to Group 2, and both groups are
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     Likely to previously blocked sock Emperor of Wiki.
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     Blocked and tagged,
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     Global lock(s) requested ~TNT (she/her • talk) 20:05, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
  • With the accounts now locked, no further action is required. Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:33, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

14 October 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


This user shows the same interests with previous socks: Italian football and communism related articles.

  NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 17:10, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

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05 December 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Both accounts were already blocked as socks on itwiki when I found them here. Both overlap significantly with previous socks across very disparate subjects. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:32, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

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-- RoySmith (talk) 17:52, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Blocked and (re)tagged all these as confirmed. Requesting global locks for everybody. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:01, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

14 December 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

Both of these accounts have repeated edits by previous PVR socks as their only edit, and have their home project on viwiki. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:51, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
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    CheckUser
    requested and endorsed by clerk - Given that the newer of these two accounts was registered before the older one began editing, the existence of additional accounts seems possible. Please check to see if any exist. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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     In progress - -- RoySmith (talk) 22:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed
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     No sleepers immediately visible -- RoySmith (talk) 22:33, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Global lock(s) requested TheSandDoctor Talk 04:57, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

04 February 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

This editor has repeated User:Dan working5's edits to History of Germany (1945–1990) (diff 1, diff 2), and like Dan working5 has edited articles on viwiki about the end of imperial rule in China. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

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who is
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 Likely
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 Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. There's some notes in cuwiki. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:03, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
  • There's enough similarity to previous socks that I'm tagging LGHK78 as proven. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:12, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

16 February 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

Here we have yet another Vietnamese editor with a focus on the post war division of Germany, and particularly the Saarland here, and the end of the Imperial period in China on viwiki. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

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  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
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    CheckUser
    requested and endorsed by clerk - This looks very suspicious to me, but I cannot meaningfully evaluate much of the relevant evidence (ie edits to non-English wikis) because of the language barrier. Please check to confirm. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:09, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     In progress - -- RoySmith (talk) 01:18, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Leyuanhona567 is
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     Confirmed. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:23, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

09 March 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

As with the last reported sock, this editor has suspicious overlapping interest in disparate subjects on other wikis in languages I don't understand. Edits that particularly stand out are their edits to vi:Trung Nguyên, an article where half the edits since the start of last year have come from PVR socks, and vi:Kình địch bóng đá Việt Nam – Thái Lan, the English version of which is currently semi-protected to prevent socking from PVR. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

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  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
    Error creating thumbnail: File missing
    CheckUser
    requested and endorsed by clerk - Please check to confirm. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     In progress - -- RoySmith (talk) 00:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
     Confirmed.
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     No sleepers immediately visible but the CU data doesn't allow for an effective search. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:42, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

17 June 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

The evidence here comes primarily from viwki. One of their first edits was to vi:Phạm Văn Rạng, and have overlapping interests in the Thailand–Vietnam football rivalry (see vi:Kình địch bóng đá Việt Nam – Thái Lan) and the politics of China. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:36, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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  • Error creating thumbnail: File missing
    Error creating thumbnail: File missing
    CheckUser
    requested and endorsed by clerk - Please check against Metaback to confirm. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
  • They are technically very
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     Likely to Metaback; alongside the behaviour, I don't have any doubts. Blocking, requesting lock, closing. Girth Summit (blether) 14:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 14:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)